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Help with sortable table
I want to create a sortable table of the data at User:Brunpal/Sandbox/1. I would like it be like BC_cloth_DPS_equipment/Feet. I'm having problems with the formating especially since there are multiple items for each quest and those quest items may require a note. Media:Quest_data.ods is the source file. It is a list of every quest that the items can be found on the AH. --Brunpal (talk) 15:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Questions for Activision Blizzard CEO Robert Kotick?
Tomorrow morning I am guest hosting CNBC's Squawkbox, and one of my guests will be Robert Kotick, CEO of Activision Blizzard. I will try to bring him your questions. (Not sure how much freedom they will give me to run the show...) What should I ask him, from the wowwiki community?
-- --Jimbo Wales 18:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome, though pity I won't be able to see it in the UK. I guess some general questions would be - would be expect to see any changes to how Blizzard works? As a result are we likely to see any changes to payment structures for the games (e.g. lower monthly subscription fee). What specific benefits does he see for Blizzard's fanbase? Thanks :) Kirkburn talk contr 01:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- A whole bunch of Oceanic player would love to know when Blizz will start discussing reimbursements for 6 weeks of nightly outages from the release of the WoW 2.4.0 game client. Blizz staff are still stating that the solution is a work in progress. Whilst stability is greatly improved now, compared to those 6 weeks, we've yet to hear anything - we keep getting a 'we'll talk when we're happy it's fixed'. There's a 190+ page post in Blizz's WoW Customer Support forum, that actually breaks the forum software, discussing this. At the current rate, it'd appear WotLK will be out before any discussion of even partial re-imbursements will happen. Is a partial reimbursement at all possible, with final resolution when their tech dept. is happy? (Sorry if I'm rambling a li'l, yeah I know the agreements with Blizz say they don't guarantee stuffs, but... this is fairly extreme and Blizz EU have handed out days of free time for less before) Normal (talk) 04:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Get to know question: "What Blizzard games have you played or are you playing now, as you're coming from Activision?" --Sky (t · c · w) 05:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- With the considerable investment that Activision is making into Blizzard, will this be used to encourage R&D to stay ahead of the market? Also, will this mean an expansion in staff and perhaps the creation of a fourth Intellectual Property at Blizzard? A little risk would seem warranted considering the operating cushion and the fact that the last (and all) IP at Blizzard was created in the 90's. - Ansu 05:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- I got the chance to ask this one. The answer was not that informative, though, he just talked about stuff they have already announced. No scoops today! :)----Jimbo Wales 14:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Will Activision leave Blizzard alone and let them continue to produce quality content? - AlexanderYoshi (talk)
- Will Activision try applying the principles of spending extra polish time on their own games? - AlexanderYoshi (talk)
- What does Activision feel is the greatest benefit it recieves as a company by merging with Blizzard to form Blizzard Activision, beyond just money? -- AlexanderYoshi (talk)
- Thursday morning videos from CNBC: Gaming on the Economy | Parting Shots
Transparency categorization
I am wondering how to categorize images with a transparent background (and good-to-OK attempts at a transparent background to a lesser extent) made in the WoW model viewer. Category:WoW Model Viewer PNG images seems correct per the transparency guidelines, but not all images in that category are transparent, just in the proper format to be if they were (see Image:CorruptedAshbringerMV.PNG). Jim the Inventor made Category:Adapted game screenshots for them, which seems a better idea. Well, the category name and descriptive sentance still needs work, but a separate category or a rehash somewhere seems needed.--SWM2448 21:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- While the Category:WoW Model Viewer PNG images doesn't require the image to be transparent, only guidelines are that it was taken from the WMV and is a PNG file, the Category:Adapted game screenshots says to me that they were taken in WoW then edited to be transparent... Thats what the category sounds like to me, though that doesn't seem to be the case, the adapted game screenshots category looks like it's being used as a combination of Category:WoW Model Viewer PNG images and Category:WoW Model Viewer JPG images.
{T•C) 21:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps a new category a Category:Transparent images for images with just a transparent background, and the ones with gray backgrounds can go into the WoW model viewer categories. The transparent category won't matter if they are from the WMV or in-game as you'll only see the object/npc/mob anyway. {T•C) 21:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps a new category a Category:Transparent images for images with just a transparent background, and the ones with gray backgrounds can go into the WoW model viewer categories. The transparent category won't matter if they are from the WMV or in-game as you'll only see the object/npc/mob anyway.
- Only difference, really, would be the way it's categorized... I guess, And I think the category Category:Adapted game screenshots (well before case was change it was Category:Adapted Game Screenshots) was there long before Ose made the new categories... not sure if he knew the other existed or not, but it might have been an attempt to replace the old category. {T•C) 22:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- Only difference, really, would be the way it's categorized... I guess, And I think the category Category:Adapted game screenshots (well before case was change it was Category:Adapted Game Screenshots) was there long before Ose made the new categories... not sure if he knew the other existed or not, but it might have been an attempt to replace the old category.
Well, I emptied out Category:Adapted game screenshots, filed the images based on type, and then put cleanup tags on the non-transparent ones. I feel Peregrine is too inactive to slap, and he may have been slapped already. I still feel a true consensus was not reached here, but it is a bit better.--SWM2448 21:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
The guidelines for WMV screenshots are set out here. I think it's too much work to categorize them based on their transparency - you can tell from the categories whether they are up to par. PNG images which are not transparent should be, and JPG images should have the WoWWiki bg, so it's something for a cleanup crew to tag really, not base categories upon. Kirkburn talk contr 23:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Death Knight Class Color
Death knights need an official color! Class colors seem to be (appropriately) buried deep within some basic style sheet on the site somewhere that simple users like me probably don't have access to. The only reference I could find to where this might be was here: [1]. So I'll leave it to the professionals to update things appropriately.
Two key pages I know of that need to display the class colors specifically are the following: Class colors & Class#Class_colors. And AFAIK, these are the Death knight color values: RBG(dec) = 0.77, 0.12, 0.23; RGB(255) = 196, 30, 59; and Hex = #C41E3A.
Although the only "official" source for this info would be the FrameXML/Fonts.xml file in the alpha client which you may or may not still consider under NDA, I still think this info is basic enough that it's high time it get added to this site to make sure the groundwork is there for users to utilize it. There are numerous public sites that are displaying the Death knight's color now, anyway, including wowhead & mmo-champion.
-- Pyro (talk) 00:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've added the basic class - not all finished, but a start. It seems fairly innocuous as additions go. Thanks! Kirkburn talk contr 14:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Default wiki skin
How can I say this delicately? ... ... nope, nothing comes to mind. How about, I simply give you the directions to see what I see: Firefox 3 (no saved login data). Javascript disabled. Images disabled generally, auto-allow for images.wikia.com and images1.wikia.nocookie.com. Not signed in.
Horrifying is too weak a term for it. The main page was so badly organized, I had to try going to some other page (any other page) to find text for the login button. (Logging in brought forth my chosen skin, and rationality returns.) Text on backgrounds that made it difficult to find/read.
I am desperately hoping I caught the wiki in some "betwixt and between" state with someone working on it. -- Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, with *images* disabled I don't see any point why would see a sensible result.
Armagone (
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- You should still be able to navigate the page without undue difficulty. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 15:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Equals sign in template parameters (questlong)
Is there any way of providing an equals sign as part of a string parameter in a template? Specifically, in questlong.
The quest "Potential for Brain Damage = High", for example, requires the '=' to be removed in order to work in the template. I can't find any way to escape it. Help:Template#Equal_signs_in_parameter_values didn't seem to help much. -- w.woods (talk) 06:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Wrath of the Lich King beta
It has begun...
Basically, it's now a free for all on beta content - let's try and limit the amount of obviously unfinished alpha stuff, and concentrate on what's been completed. Courtesy of kd3, we now have thousands of extra pages and images. You can see the images on Special:Log/upload - if there are any that are unused, please link them into appropriate articles! The imported pages shown on Special:Log/import should all be in their natural places, though the categories may need creation (if so, please make sure it follows other categories of that type).
Enjoy! Kirkburn talk contr 12:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- A toast to all who stemmed the flow of NDA material before today!--SWM2448 18:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
We now have a portal up dedicated to Wrath content - see Portal:WotLK. If you need to tweak or fix bits, please do. There's only a couple of red links, and hopefully those should be gone soon. Kirkburn talk contr 23:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Citation is useless now?
All that work citing... When is a WotLK preview link to be kept? We do not often cite things that are 'common knowlage from the game'.--SWM2448 23:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The meaning of...
well i was looking up some stuf at wowwike but sometimes i see some words that i just cant figure out... i know what low and mid is but how do i know what low- and medium-levels are? 10-20? 10-30? idk! so it would be nice if there whas a special page where some of those words are explained. -- Domyras (talk) 14:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Assuming this is a real question... my personal estimates are: low level = 0-30, medium-level = 30-55, high-level = 55-70. See also Category:Game terms. Kirkburn talk contr 23:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Elinks for WOTLK
All elinks template added to new WotLK articles don't work; wowhead for example uses a new site with prefix "wotlk." (wotlk.wowhead.com) to designate new content. Suggestion to fix this? -- ShandrisForever talk / contribs 20:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Death knight faction
Is it Knights of the Ebon Blade or Knights of the Ebon Hand?--SWM2448 20:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Everything seems to point to ebon blade, ebon hand might have been just another name for it... {T•C) 01:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Message won't go away
I got a message from a different wiki a couple of weeks ago with an account also called Mr.X8 and even on this site it says I have a new message, except on a different site, and like I said "It's been a couple of weeks".
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 19:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Have you tried looking at the said message on the other wiki? The usertalk on wikia is linked.--SWM2448 20:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Because I follow the link, though I'm automatically logged onto my other one, I think.
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs
It worked. Thanks Sandwichman!
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 21:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Uh-Oh
I decided to try out for beta and they'd email me if I'm chosen. However I've changed and gained like a dozen email accounts since I gave my credentials to WoW. They only list one letter of my email account and bleeped out 4 others. I don't have any such email address such as this, how can I change it to one of my current ones?
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 21:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I found out how to do it, but it won't except it. If and when I change it, will the thing about beta get to me?
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 02:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- This is not Blizzard Customer Service. I suggest you contact them. --Pcj (T•C) 02:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I have! The line won't go through it just gives me the busy sound
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 02:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Builds for Wrath of The Lich King
Could some people please post possible builds for all classes that include the knew class Death Knight and could the builds be for Wrath of the Lich King? -- Picklevendor (talk) 22:27, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Don't post irrelevant jokes, please. As for your question, it is very early days yet. Kirkburn talk contr 22:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Just look around wowwiki Picklevendor. I have seen a few possible builds already on here. Rolandius
(talk - contr) 22:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Combat Events (API) listing
The list of events in the Combat category is dominated by obsolete events which are marked with the text "Replaced in 2.4.0 with COMBAT_LOG_EVENT." How long are we going to have these obsolete events remain in the list? I know I personally don't like having to wade through a sea of obsolete events and other details when looking for documentation that may help my work on various addons. I propose moving these old events to another page if we want to keep them for historical purposes. In any case, I find it counterproductive to leave the list as it is now. Perhaps there is a policy regarding what we do with obsolete API information that I'm unaware of; if not, I think we need one, as we're only going to have more obsolete information as time goes on, especially with 3.0 on its way. -- Tuhljin (talk) 00:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Naturally, I'd say move the obsolete events to a new section at the bottom of the page. --Sky (t · c · w) 00:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
My suggested solution is to move all the outdated stuff from Events/C (which is the editable original) to Events/Removed, which I just created. Events listed in /Removed will not be populated to the category pages by the bot. --Mikk (T) 05:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
World of warcraft item categories
The World of Warcraft item categories (especially Category:World of Warcraft uncommon items, Category:World of Warcraft common items, Category:World of Warcraft rare items, and Category:World of Warcraft epic items) are too damn huge, to the point of not being navigable or practical. I think we should split it up somehow, probably by item level, and possibly have {{tooltip}} automatically categorize these so all we'd have to do is get a bot to remove the existing categories. Thoughts? --Pcj (T•C) 01:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking to split them up by drop locations, as many of them already are. I know there is a world drop category; have another category for purchaseable, another for instance drops, etc etc? --Sky (t · c · w) 02:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- Not really. We can start off by pulling items from the variety of categories dedicated to instance loot, a la Category:World of Warcraft items by instance. I don't know how to progress from there. --Sky (t · c · w) 02:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I agree with this - {{bigcat}} exists to help navigation around large categories. The resulting categories per instance would also be very long - "World of Warcraft Temple of Ahn'Qiraj common items" - quite a mouthful. Kirkburn talk contr 12:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Calling all beta participants!
If you're in the beta and are looking for fellow WoWWikians, get your name down on WoWWiki:WotLK beta contacts with your user name and beta characters so we can find each other. Kirkburn talk contr 13:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Location maps
Rascilon has recently been uploading maps to highlight where locations exist - for example Image:Westfall brigade camp map.jpg. I like the idea, since our location articles don't generally say exactly where they are, but I can't help but think there's probably a much better way to do it using templates.
Similar the the NPC co-ordinate template, could we create a template to position PNG image highlights over locations? Kirkburn talk contr 23:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- As I have been informed by pcj, {{Zone Map}} replicated much of this - however, it could do with a transparent overlay image for areas. Kirkburn talk contr 00:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- I personally find it silly to upload highlighted maps for an area that is labeled. If it was a place that was not marked on the map like many places are I would actually enjoy having a highlighted map to show me. Still... uploading the same image (with a different part highlighted) for every place within a zone seems excessive. So if Zone Map can be changed to add a green highlight that would be nice. {T•C) 00:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)