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Nether dragon whelp
Faction/Affiliation	Netherwing Dragonflight
Character classes	Nether dragon whelp
Racial leader(s)	Neltharaku; Karynaku; Mordenaku
Racial mount	Self-powered flight
Homeworld	Outlands
Language(s)	Draconic, Common

Revision as of 21:25, 14 July 2011

Nether whelps are the hatchlings of the Netherwing Dragonflight.

Notable

Types

Nether Whelp

As a Companion

[Netherwhelp's Collar] is available only to people who bought the Collector's Edition of the Burning Crusade expansion pack.

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+| name = Nether dragon whelp
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+| image =
+| type =
+| faction = [[Netherwing Dragonflight]]
+| character = Nether dragon whelp
+| capital =
+| leader = [[Neltharaku]]<br>[[Karynaku]]<br>[[Mordenaku]]
+| mount = Self-powered flight
+| homeworld = [[Outlands]]
+| environment =
+| area =
+| language = [[Draconic]], [[Common (language)|Common]]
+}}
+'''Nether whelps''' are the hatchlings of the [[Netherwing Dragonflight]].
-What are everyone's thoughts on Ashbear160? If you have any questions, refer to his [[Special:Contributions/Ashbear160|contributions]], his [[User talk:Ashbear160|talk page]], or simply discuss it here.
+==Notable==
-Also, please review some points of our [[Wowpedia:Disruptive editing policy|disruptive editing policy]]:
+==Types==
+*[[Nether Whelp]]
+==As a Companion==
+*[[Netherwhelp's Collar]] is available only to people who bought the Collector's Edition of the Burning Crusade expansion pack.
+{{Dragonflightfooter|Netherwing Dragonflight}}
-* their edits are largely confined to talk-pages, such disruption may not directly harm an article, but it often prevents other editors from reaching consensus on how to improve an article
+[[Category:Dragon whelps]]
+[[Category:Netherwing Dragonflight]]
-* '''Does not engage in consensus building:
-** repeatedly disregards other editors' questions or requests for explanations concerning edits or objections to edits;
-** repeatedly disregards other editors' explanations for their edits.
-* '''Rejects community input''': resists moderation and/or requests for comment, continuing to edit in pursuit of a certain point despite an opposing consensus from impartial editors.
-Does anyone have a problem with him? Does anyone have any compliments for him? Also, I can not stress enough that this is not about him, this is about his contributions and edits to the wiki, be they good or bad.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 20:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
-:I've been asking for opinions... and i explained myself when asked, and i don't disregard other's opinions, if i did disregard other opinions, things would've been a lot messier.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
-::If this is about the organization page, we were talking i made my point, the page is too big for a single list and i personally think it should be divided, and proposed various solutions i'm waiting for your answer.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
-:::I believe this is more than about the organization page. It's about overall contributions throughout the wiki. And it's not that you ask questions, questions are often a good thing, it shows interest, but sometimes you'll ask questions about something that involves mass edits, and then perform said changes without waiting for a response.. sometimes a minute after you ask what people would think of the change you're looking to do. Don't get me wrong, it's good to [[be bold]] and not "ask for permission" to do things, certain things however should be discussed... before they are done. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 22:15, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
-::::Ok then, good thing i set up that discussion in the forums(still haven't got an answer), It's just that most of the times i won't get an answer unless i do a edit first, and if it's disagreed the edit can always be reverted.--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 22:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
-I have a problem that Ashbear160 are doing WoW-related edits even though he doesn't play WoW, have an obsession with certain articles and subjects and doing widespread edits related to them, makes edits and requests that are non-essential to the improvements of the wiki, and in general being an annoyance. I don't want to compare him to a certain troublesome previous (now perma-banned) editor, but this is the last straw. --{{User:Gourra/Sig2}} 14:21, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-:I asked for opinion, and said i was going to try to do this...--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 14:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-My problem is that, as Gourra said, he is obsessed with certain articles - I mean icons. I think there is far too much icons in this wiki - like icons for chaos orcs, or unique icons for different skin of same model, most of it suggested by Ashbear. That's all. I would respond sooner, but -don't get me wrong- when I saw name of this forum, I just laughed too hard.[[User:Neutralion|Neutralion]] ([[User talk:Neutralion|talk]]) 19:03, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-:And i accepted all of your valid arguments and moved on, some i didn't because i still think they aren't valid (ex: there are red orcs serving the horde in the dark portal but they are not the heavily mutated version represented in the icons for fel orcs, so we needed icons for that case, and the icons for the two different icons "of souls" creatures are requested because someone did the same for erudax, and i conceded on your argument of morogrim, i though he was different but he was not.)--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-::Well, all I know is, your constant requests for icons (some of which make no sense) have gotten our lead icon maker at the point of not even wanting to make icons anymore... and I myself have stopped looking at the requested icon section. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 20:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-:::I would try to make them myself, and i did but you rejected it based on quality, can you at least tell me how did you make it look good so i can stop requesting and start making some?--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 20:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-::::As I've said before... I'd prefer the icon making kept to a few users, ones that won't make icons for every Tom, Dick and Harry in the game. {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 20:54, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-:::::I think I can at least justify most if not all Icon requests, pick one requested icon that you think i can't justify why it's on the list(note: i'm removing firedancer and captured flame because the first i saw in a preview in the firelands which was eventually replaced with druids, and the captured flame because flame sprites are not canon now...), i also wouldn't do it for every tom dick and harry, but just those that are on the list since vanilla to wotlk, because i don't have cata installed--[[User:Ashbear160|Ashbear160]] ([[User talk:Ashbear160|talk]]) 21:03, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-::::::Very well, this can be picked up on the [[Wowpedia talk:List of creature icons#Justify icons|appropriate page]] (Next time wait till I point them out, rather than jumping straight into it... ) {{User:Coobra/Sig4}} 21:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
-On December 7 2010, I marked Ashbear160‎ as a "suspect" on the Violations page for "Edit wars on Horde bias, Alliance bias, Humanoid, and others." The edit wars may have stopped as he claimed (I am not sure), but he did not improve. On January 21, 2011 I blocked Ashbear160 for three days for being "In violation of the [[Wowpedia:Disruptive editing policy]]." The reasoning for the ban went right over his head. I have come to dislike him greatly, and I am too biased at this point to add much to the discussion, but I honestly believe him to be incapable of improvement. Good faith is always present, but I doubt that I can disagree with a person that much and be wrong in all instances. He has several flaws (some big, some small, all persistent), and he has not made any effort to fix them. He just digs his heels in and makes excuses.--{{User:Sandwichman2448/Sig}} 21:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)