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The '''[[WoWWiki:Be_bold_in_updating_pages|BOLD]], [[WoWWiki:reverts|revert]], and [[WoWWiki:talk pages|discuss]] cycle''' is a method that can be used to change any page on any consensus based wiki, and attain consensus on the changes as they are being made.
 
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| name=Not Quite Shipshape
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| start=[[Sebastian Hayward]] {{co|36.9|84.2|Gilneas|phase=1}}
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| faction=Alliance
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| id=14404
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| level=7
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| category=Gilneas
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| reputation=+150 [[Gilneas]]
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| rewards={{item|Shipwright's Bag}}
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| experience=480
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| money={{cost||1|25}}
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| previous={{quest|The Hayward Brothers}}
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| next={{quest|Escape By Sea}}
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}}
   
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== Objectives ==
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The cycle is occasionally used to break deadlocks on policy or high profile pages. Large amounts of diplomacy are required to pull it off successfully there. It generally helps to discuss your problems with the page before entering the cycle.
 
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{{NPC||Sebastian Hayward}} at the [[Hayward Fishery]] wants you to obtain Planks of Wood, Coal Tar and Shipwright's Tools.
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*{{item|icon=|Planks of Wood}} {{co|36.1|86.5|Gilneas|phase=1}}
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*{{item|icon=|Coal Tar}} {{co|37.6|86.0|Gilneas|phase=1}}
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*{{item|icon=|Shipwright's Tools}} {{co|37.5|87.2|Gilneas|phase=1}}
   
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== Description ==
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Note that this cycle generally just gets editing going, and gets people to cooperate on it. There is no guarantee that the outcome will be as you expect. Be prepared to be flexible!
 
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Evacuation, you say? Well, we had that very same idea all on our own after these [[Forsaken]] started showing up.
   
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We were thinking the water would be the safest way out of here.
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The basic concept is to find the people who actually disagree with you by causing them to revert.
 
   
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Unfortunately our boats didn't come out from that last earthquake unscathed.
== Cycle ==
 
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The cycle has the following steps:
 
   
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I need some additional supplies to finish my repairs: wood, tar and my tools. Get them for me so that my brothers and I can make it out of here.
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* First, [[WoWWiki:Be_bold_in_updating_pages|be bold]] and make a change to the page as you see fit.
 
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* Wait until someone reverts or makes just as a substantial edit as you did. DO NOT Revert back!
 
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* Discuss with the reverter.
 
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* Once you reach agreement, be bold again, implement it, and wait to be reverted again. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
 
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* If no one reverts after a couple of days, congratulations! You got out of the impasse and got changes done.
 
   
 
== Rewards ==
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Only talk with one or at most two reverters at once! You can always go back and get yourself reverted again to find other interested parties.
 
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You will receive: {{cost||1|25}} and {{item|Shipwright's Bag}}
   
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== Progress ==
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== Discussions with reverter ==
 
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Do you have my supplies, <name>?
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In the discussion with the reverter, here are some points to remember:
 
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* Stay civil at all times.
 
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* It is very hard to gain brownie points using this method, expect to only be accepted neutrally if you act perfectly, and expect people to get mad at you if you do it wrong.
 
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* There's no such thing as a consensus version. You were not part of that consensus, as evidenced by your own major edit. (You can assume that the other party is in a similar cycle to you, whether they know it or not.)
 
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* You don't have to accept "policy" , "consensus", or "procedure" as excuses. These sometimes get worn out on consensus-based wikis, but you're disagreeing with them. Don't back off immediately, BUT!:
 
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* Do listen very carefully to the other person's position, which might include their interpretation of a policy as part of the reasons. Don't accept ''"it's policy, live with it."'', but DO listen VERY CAREFULLY when folks say "well, flurbeling was a bad idea, that's why we decided to always floop before we fleep instead."
 
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* Accommodate the wishes of the other person. Don't run over them roughshod. It won't work, and it'll only cost you brownie points for no good reason.
 
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* Try to get the other person to undo their revert or apply their suggested changes if possible. This is preferable to doing it yourself since it avoids accidentally angering the other party.
 
   
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== Completion ==
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[[Category:Guidelines|{{PAGENAME}}]]
 
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This is great, <name>. I should be able to finish the repairs in no time.
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[[Category:WoWWiki|{{PAGENAME}}]]
 
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==Notes==
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The tar is north of the house between the two sheds, the tools are inside the house in the back, and the planks of wood are west of the house under the southern shed.
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== Quest progression==
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{{:Worgen starting experience/Exodus}}
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==Patch history==
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{{Patch 4.0.3|note=Added}}
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Revision as of 22:11, 8 October 2010

Template:Stub/Cataclysm

AllianceNot Quite Shipshape
Start Sebastian Hayward [36.9, 84.2]VZ-GilneasBlip
End Sebastian Hayward [36.9, 84.2]VZ-GilneasBlip
Level 7
Category Gilneas
Experience 480
Reputation +150 Gilneas
Rewards Inv misc bag 04 [Shipwright's Bag]
1s 25c
Previous The Hayward Brothers
Next Escape By Sea

Objectives

Sebastian Hayward at the Hayward Fishery wants you to obtain Planks of Wood, Coal Tar and Shipwright's Tools.

Description

Evacuation, you say? Well, we had that very same idea all on our own after these Forsaken started showing up.

We were thinking the water would be the safest way out of here.

Unfortunately our boats didn't come out from that last earthquake unscathed.

I need some additional supplies to finish my repairs: wood, tar and my tools. Get them for me so that my brothers and I can make it out of here.

Rewards

You will receive: 1s 25c and Inv misc bag 04 [Shipwright's Bag]

Progress

Do you have my supplies, <name>?

Completion

This is great, <name>. I should be able to finish the repairs in no time.

Notes

The tar is north of the house between the two sheds, the tools are inside the house in the back, and the planks of wood are west of the house under the southern shed.

Quest progression

  1. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] As the Land Shatters
  2. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Gasping for Breath
  3. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Evacuation
  4. Complete all of:
    • Gramma
    1. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Grandma Wahl
    2. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Grandma's Lost It Alright
    3. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] I Can't Wear This
    4. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Grandma's Cat
    5. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Ready to Go (optional)
    • Haywards
    1. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] The Hayward Brothers
    2. A [7] Not Quite Shipshape & A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Washed Up
    3. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Escape By Sea (optional)
    • Crowley
    1. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] The Crowley Orchard
    2. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] The Hungry Ettin
    3. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Horses for Duskhaven (optional)
  5. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] To Greymane Manor
  6. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] The King's Observatory
  7. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Alas, Gilneas!
  8. A IconSmall Worgen MaleIconSmall Worgen Female [1-30] Exodus

Patch history

Cataclysm Patch 4.0.3 (2010-11-16): Added

External links