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Wowpedia:Writing/ExternalLinks/Allakhazam removal vote

Revision as of 22:59, 10 April 2007 by @DeletedUser40286642 (talk | contribs) (→‎Comments)
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Icon-question-48x48 This is a proposal and requires a vote to be accepted or declined.
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Changes and Options

This vote will deal with whether we keep Allakhazam in the auto-added Elinks templates (Template:Tlink, Template:Tlink, Template:Tlink...). It will be a simple Keep/Remove vote. Manually added Template:Tlink do not count and are always welcome if they fit the policy. The vote is exclusively for the Elinks templates.


Icon-question-48x48 A vote is in progress!
  • A consensus must be reached by voting before any action is taken.
  • If one side outnumbers the other by five votes for three days, that side is declared the winner.
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Click [Edit] in the upper-right hand corner of the votes section, and add your vote in one the following methods (note that not all votes will have Yes/No options):
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or
  • {{vote|No|~~~~|optional comment}}
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To discuss the vote
Click [Edit] in the upper-right hand corner of the comments section.
The voting process
See Wowpedia:Voting policy for full details.
Make the following changes based on the outcome:
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  • If Yes has won, and 3 days have passed
    1. Change {{Vote/Closing}} on this talk page to {{Accepted}}
    2. Make the change suggested in the proposal.
  • If No has won, and 3 days have passed
    1. Change {{Vote/Closing}} on this talk page to {{Declined}}
    2. Do not remove the votes!
  • If necessary, you may archive votes to Wowpedia:Writing/ExternalLinks/Allakhazam removal vote/Archivevote.


Votes

Keep
  1. Keep Reskar 11:37, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (I find Alla to be useful in some areas as it tends to have a more complete loot list for newer things and user comments are MUCH more useful than the other 2 sites. Significantly less spam/stupid flames.),
  2. Keep User:Tekkub/Sig 22:19, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (Even though I prefer Wowhead, I do still hit alla up for info from time to time.)
  3. Keep Vysogota T / C 22:55, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (In most cases Allakhazam has newly discovered drops long before Thott or Wowhead. I use this site a lot.)
  4. Keep User:Psyker7/Sig 22:57, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (While it is owned somewhere above by IGN, in general their site is a good source of information, and they DO use the correct item id's in all their links.)
  5. Keep Mikk (T) 07:43, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (There are more people running the allakhazam client than people running the wowhead client. At least for now, allakhazam has much more accurate drop rate readings. Doubly so for lower level areas.)
  6. Keep Shirik 08:01, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  7. Keep GRYPHONtc 12:13, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (Can't deny their popularity even if you like other sites better they are still in top 2 for most used site.)
  8. Keep Dracomage 13:28, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (They provide good pre/sequel links to quests and items.)
  9. Keep Mlucero 11:27, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (I don't use it and they aren't perfect, but no one can deny its popularity and wowwiki should be as complete a reference as possible.)
  10. keep Baggins 15:48, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (I find it useful along with Thottbot, and Goblinworkshop and others. There is not just one end all/beat all source of information.)
  11. keep --Sandwichman2448 16:00, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (They have more pictures... and like Birdlion said, they are popular... So keep.)
Remove
  1. Remove Pyroshen 17:10, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (searching for things is terrible,)
  2. Remove User:Adys/Sig 21:36, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - ()
  3. Remove Normal 22:16, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  4. Remove Shadow 22:47, 8 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  5. Remove Sharlin 06:44, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (was once a great site, not anymore)
  6. Remove Leyritz13 08:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  7. Remove Pinky84 14:27, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (no comment)
  8. Remove Tribunal 16:32, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - (Alla is full of trojans, keyloggers, owned by IGE. Don't support them!)
  9. Remove User:Kitan/Sig 21:26, 9 April 2007 (EDT) - ()
  10. Remove InfinityX 02:46, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Wowhead always runs smoother than any of the others, and is much more reliable. Allakhazam is unreliable, the navigation is a chore, and the site as a whole is hard on the eyes, considering all the links to completely unrelated sections of the parent site.)
  11. Remove Malus 07:55, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Outdated garbage, doesn't have anything other sites don't, except more ads than you can count, we all love those, right?)
  12. Remove Yithnal 16:03, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (ads, subscriptions, outdated, everything I'm opposed to)
  13. Remove User:Kirkburn/Sig2 16:28, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Badly designed websites are just a no-no for me)
  14. Remove Rorus Raz 17:37, 10 April 2007 (EDT) - (Alla ads can not only be annoying, but make it the slowest loading amongst the four sites.)

Comments

Abstain: While I personally don't prefer Alla, I hold nothing against it. It dose, however, appear psyker (sp?) missed the note that Thott is now using the correct item ids. ;P--User:Sky2042/Sig 01:36, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

My bad.... Still, alla and thott have been the two constants in wow databases, might remove my thott remove vote. --User:Psyker7/Sig 05:41, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Changed my vote to keep. Originally, I must admit I was too biased. I grew up on Thott, always used it, never used Allakhazam. After having actually played around with it since voting remove, I have to admit it has some good information. It deserves a second look. Shirik 11:29, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

does anyone know why this vote was initiated in the first place? is have 3 links causing a strain on the system in some way?--Reskar 12:30, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Some people prefer certain sites and would like to push more traffic toward their favorite. --GRYPHONtc 12:47, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
After a bit of discussion on IRC it was proposed that adding new sites to the elinks templates should require a community vote. It seemed appropriate that the current items pass a vote as well, since at least one site's addition has been questioned. User:Tekkub/Sig 14:05, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
Well, it seemed appropriate to have all items but Wowhead pass a vote apparently until a vote was created after the fact. GRYPHONtc 14:10, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
*cough* You'll have to talk about Adys on that, since he's the one that created the vote pages :) User:Tekkub/Sig 17:02, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Tribunal your comments for thott "(Thottbot is full of trojans, keyloggers, owned by IGE. Don't support them!)" and alla "Alla is full of trojans, keyloggers, owned by IGE. Don't support them!" are exactly the same, and the only think you've done is these votes, gotta wonder do you own wowhead or something?--Reskar 13:22, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

The Wowhead admins are on IRC from time to time, and they're mostly harmless I'm afraid :) In fact, they asked if they were even allowed to vote on this matter. User:Tekkub/Sig 14:05, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
It may sound like a flame, but at least some of it (owned by IGE) is factually true... and I've heard plenty of stories from folks with poorly secured computers/browsers getting bit by ads on both sites. User:Fizzwidget/Signature 15:24, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
However you do not know the motives of the site or other sites beyond what they tell you just the same. GRYPHONtc 15:26, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Anyway, I'll abstain here too. I dislike it primarily for being owned by IGE (and the security-risk ads may not affect me, but I'd hate to see some poor newbie who doesn't know better than to use IE getting upset because the wiki linked 'em to a site that ate their machine)... but it's still very popular, has pretty good data, and does a few things the better sites don't (I still use their web API to get item links on my site). User:Fizzwidget/Signature 15:36, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Personally, I am concerned by the assumption that all but one of them are leaving. I don't see any reason not to allow multiple sites to add themselves to the template as long as they use the same id. User:Kitan/Sig 17:19, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

There was no assumption that any sight would be removed. The elinks templates are protected and it seems the most acceptable way to get a new one added would be a community vote. So these votes are for community support of the sites in the template... for all fairness. User:Tekkub/Sig 18:26, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
As you can probably see on the AmpWoW vote, some people disagree with some websites being added. So yes, the vote is here to restablish neutrality. As for not making a vote for Wowhead, its for the simple reason I knew the results. Doubt it? Check it out ;) --User:Adys/Sig 18:59, 10 April 2007 (EDT)


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