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When adding Patch 2.4 stuff, please...
I've noticed helpful people adding Patch 2.4 stuff, but leaving out some important info. Please don't leave the elinks id blank, if you can help it. Also, please note somewhere in the article (I prefer a "Patch Changes" section at the end) that the item/NPC/quest is new in Patch 2.4. Eventually when the patch goes live the {{stub/2.4}} will get removed or replaced with a more generic stub, so the info that it was from Patch 2.4 might get lost. We should have done this por patch 2.3 and earlier, but better late than never. Also, please use {{stub/2.4}} at the top of the article. --
Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2:33 PM PST 18 Feb 2008
- Just don't forget the WW:MOS: "Patch changes", "External links". --k_d3 22:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- And its Category:Quest givers (preferably Category:<race> quest givers) not Category:Quest Givers.
{T•C) 23:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- And its Category:Quest givers (preferably Category:<race> quest givers) not Category:Quest Givers.
And it's piggy in the middle time from me. Don't make me separate you two. ;) Perhaps we should be doing Category:World of Warcraft patch 2.4.0 style categories? The MOS is a guideline because we don't ban people for not following it. Gentle soothing advice works better. Reason why elinks should always be at the end is for consistency, so users know where to expect stuff. Remember some users do not visit IRC, which is their choice, and thus may not know about all the (policy-related) changes done by bots. Kirkburn talk contr 17:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Category Help/DM Loot up for Inspection
With the suggestion that Jiyambi had for loot pages (to follow the Karazhan loot page, I ended up making one for Dire Maul since it really didn't have one. At least not one that I could find. So that's up for criticism and what not before I go further. == Dire Maul loot == As for categories that it should belong to, they're automatically generated? And will eventually show itself at the bottom of the page without me having to do anything? Or is there a process I should be following? -- Innocentlysassy 03:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Added a category. Makes think there should be another category, for such loot pages. --Sky (t | c | w) 06:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Woot! Thanks. Was wondering how to get a ToC in there, and all the mob pages I was referencing didn't have an example command for me to use. -- Innocentlysassy 09:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Nice page, Innocent. I like that layout a lot... --Azaram 02:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I noticed that it was a raid template after I was done. Shrugged and figured if it mattered someone would remove it. ;) It was just there when I was following the other page. Went looking for one like that for normal instances, but alas there was none. =( At least not a small one like that. The only other one I found was for the bottom of the page that had every single instance. Perhaps I might consider it. *shrugs* Or if I ever learn to make templates, make my own for the loot. We'll see. =D Thanks for the input! -- Innocentlysassy 06:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. ;) Credit for said layout should go to whoever made the Karazhan loot page. It was a great idea. -- Innocentlysassy 20:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, it occurs to me that this page (and others if they are made) should definitely be put in the instance navigation template for that particular instance. I will try it out for Dire Maul (the nav probably need to be updated anyway, that's another project atm) and see how it goes, and then you can use it as an example in the futre. --Jiyambi t || c 07:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure what you're referring to, but I'm sure I'll learn eventually. I'm finding I like using templates. ;) Also Stratholme loot made if anyone wants to smack it around a bit. -- Innocentlysassy 20:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- I know it exists (Category:Stratholme_items). But like I said earlier, I'm not sure how to get the page onto it. It's edit has all of 2 lines. =/ Heh, and apparently I don't know how to make it show up as a link here. Could you perhaps link me a page on editing a Category or what to do after a page to make Categories happen? -- Innocentlysassy 23:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just add [[Category:Stratholme items]] to the bottom of the loot page - it doesn't link because it's a category. It will then be automatically entered into the category. To make a link to a category you need to type [[:Category:Stratholme items]]. BTW, the Dire Maul navigation has been updated but I can't really add it to the loot page because of the new way the nav is set up. Any ideas for how to deal with this? --Jiyambi t || c 03:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Undenting (and rethreading for correct times): Yes, that's the way such loot pages should be done. Um... also, if they do have a specific category for items from that instance, it should be categorized as [[Category:Stratholme items| ]], so that the loot list will appear at the top of the category. If there isn't a specific category yet (which there should be by now, for most instances, by WW:ZCP), then just leave it in the general list as [[Category:X]]. --Sky (t | c | w) 03:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- I set up the navigation box for the Dire Maul loot page. Unfortunately the way I set it up, it only works with the instances that have had their navigations revamped. Essentially, Innocent, if you try it that way and it looks funky, just change it to {{Instance Name}} and it should work out. Alternatively, I can just swing by and add the nav to the loot pages you do, if that seems too complicated. --Jiyambi t || c 04:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- One thing that's missing is a section on Tribute runs. I'm pretty sure that has it's own page somewhere, so linking that would be good, or adding the items to the page would be good also. --Sky (t | c | w) 04:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Dire_Maul_Tribute_Run? --Eirik Ratcatcher 19:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for reminding me, Sky. It's been a couple years since I've done a tribute run. =D I'll try to get that up later today. And Jiyambi, I put the nav box at the top of the Strath page... but, as there is no Template:Stratholme... it's currently empty. Shall I just leave them off for the time being until it gets made? I'd make one... but not knowing how is a big barrier. =D Baby steps, ya know? -- Innocentlysassy 04:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- One thing that's missing is a section on Tribute runs. I'm pretty sure that has it's own page somewhere, so linking that would be good, or adding the items to the page would be good also. --Sky (t | c | w) 04:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Found them, it's up. Not labeled undead/scarlet without a header, so with exception of a space, lines up nicely. Especially since one of the bosses spawns on the other side, iinm. -- Innocentlysassy 05:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Green Triangle
I am mentioned in the Dath Remar Server site for being awarded the first "Green Triangle". I know when I was starting I had a few teething problems adapting from warrior to Priest, but I'd like to know if anyone can tell me what the details of the original Green Triangle incident was, specifically Ltb0619 who wrote the piece.
-- Eccles 12:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- (I added a header. --Azaram 02:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC))
- As an actually useful answer, you might want to post on Ltb0619's talk page and ask him. Assuming he set up an email, he'll get a message that something has been posted there. --Azaram 11:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Something funky going on
So it seems there is something funky happening with the way wowwiki's css is displaying in on my browser (firefox), which was fine up until today. For example, on the instance and npc boxes, the "bosses" or "instance" heading appears small and aligned to the left, when it is usually bolded and centered. More disturbingly, the lootbox has lost almost all formatting, including background, and appears as a bulleted list. Anyone know what might be going on and whether it is just my computer - and if so, how to fix it? --Jiyambi t || c 08:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Everything looks normal on my side. (Tetsted with Safari, Camino and Firefox) - Stupid question, but have you tried to empty thge browser cache? (Reeina 10:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC))
- Try what Reeina said... every once in a while, I get Wowwiki as a page from the 80s, where it's a blank white background with plain white text...
- Relatedly, though, my user page seems to be having some problems. It used to have two columns of the templates, now has one column with the || formatting marks showing as text. It looks like someone went through and modified a lot of the templates themselves with different colors and icons, but would that have changed the formatting of the page itself? --Azaram 11:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Azaram, either use the normal syntax rather than || shortcut, use html, don't use tables, or make someone code userbox properly using divs. Basically the table syntax and wiki parser isn't robust enough for embeding tables like that, hence the change to userbox has broken your page. There's probably soemthing specific to point the finger at, but generally, that's the problem. --
- Azaram, either use the normal syntax rather than || shortcut, use html, don't use tables, or make someone code userbox properly using divs. Basically the table syntax and wiki parser isn't robust enough for embeding tables like that, hence the change to userbox has broken your page. There's probably soemthing specific to point the finger at, but generally, that's the problem. --
- I dunno what the normal syntax is... I found someone else's userpage that had something like what I wanted, and copied what they had. I know how to do HTML tables, but I dunno otherwise. Is there a how to somewhere? --Azaram 04:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
In Game Lore + Books
I'm interested in starting to catalog lore in the game, particularly the readable books found on tables, but also other readable items and lore nuggets revealed in quests. What sort of tag system should be used to hold these together? Would these be welcome here? -- Lese 04:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Edit: While here, I'd like to redraw some attention from admins to the section In-game books and styling so that the CSS can be implemented... sorry to hound, but I just like how Zeal made the design so much, I would love to use it. {T•C) 04:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Edit: While here, I'd like to redraw some attention from admins to the section In-game books and styling so that the CSS can be implemented... sorry to hound, but I just like how Zeal made the design so much, I would love to use it.
I've added Zeal's CSS to the Common.css as it seemed to be the one with the most support. If anything needs tweaking, please let us know! Kirkburn talk contr 10:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- It was apparently decided a 4th lever header was undesirable. The CSS in wowwiki.css and common.css need to be changed to relfect that it's now using a div, and remove the style attributes from the template itself. --
- It was apparently decided a 4th lever header was undesirable. The CSS in wowwiki.css and common.css need to be changed to relfect that it's now using a div, and remove the style attributes from the template itself. --
Wow at 70
I've added a Wow at 70 page, which it is hoped will carry similar content to the nice "Wow at 60" guide produced by Gamespy for pre-bc level cap activity. [1]
I would really welcome assistance by experienced wowwikians in helping to fill out this page.
-- Ucgajhe 13:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Crushing Blows and Resiliance
I was just out reading the warrior forums, and found folks talking about resilience lowering the "crushing damage required defense value cap". And yet, there is not discussion of this in the relevant pages (Resilience, Defense, Crushing blow), or I am not able to identify it as such.
Would someone who knows something about how all that works do a bit of editing on the pages? Maybe I'm simply info-blind; but if I am, I doubt I'm alone in it. --Eirik Ratcatcher 20:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Resilience has nothing to do with crushing blows, it only lowers the chance to be critically hit, making it an alternative to defense when aiming for crit immunity. Defense can reduce the chance to be crushed, though, as it increases your miss/dodge/block/parry chance. What you heard probably was wishful thinking - it would be nice for the non-blocking druids to get means to avoid crushing blows, as it is rather easily possible for warriors and paladins to become crushing-immune with the respective temporary block buff up, so it sounds weird that you heard about it on the warrior forums. ~
ŋɑϑ 12:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I freely admit my ignorance on the topic. What I heard was on the lines of "Resiliance reduces chance to be crit, which also pushes crush off the table". The thought there was, I am guessing, that if you can't be crit, you also can't be crushed. You know definitely, then, that this is not so? Either way the truth lays out, however, it should be mentioned on the respective pages. As I said before, if I'm confused, others will be too. --Eirik Ratcatcher 23:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, this is definately untrue, or druids would be piling resistance. The reason druids have tons of armor and HP is that we have no way to avoid crushing blows aside from dodge, so we have to live through them. (A little late, but I just noticed this. :-p) --Azaram 01:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- From my understanding, and mind you I am not a tank and I do not PvP... resilience changes crit into hit, it won't "push" anything around on the table. To push things off the table, you have to increase the chance to be missed, via dodge and parry, or to negate the effects of being hit, ala defense and block. TeжubԎ Ҩ Ѡ 02:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
1.12 test site
We've got a test site up for WoWWiki running on MW 1.12! This is strictly for testing whether it breaks the wiki in any fashion, so it would be really useful if people could take a look and report anything you find :)
Info and reports on User:Kirkburn/Problems please! Kirkburn talk contr 20:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Because I basically can't access there, is the issue where [[Project:<page>]] is not redirecting to [[WoWWiki:<page>]] popping up (as documented on WW:SR)? --Sky (t | c | w) 09:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Quest tooltips
With the coming 2.4 patch, quests will now get their own tooltips. I was wondering if we should add similar functionality for the quests to WoWWiki. Information that I was able to determine that is included in the in-game tooltips:
- Quest name
- Whether or not you are on the quest (wouldn't be shown on WoWWiki)
- A short synopsis of the quest
- A list of objectives
This would, at the very least, require a few parameters to be added to {{Questbox}}.
Along with this idea, we might change {{quest}} et al. to use the yellow "enchant" loot format. --Pcj (T•C) 15:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't believe the first set of changes are needed, as the reason they are linkable in game (it would seem, from so little information) is to show people what you're on, rather than as a main information. We can include the main information in hard text. As to your second set... I kinda like how they are right now. --Sky (t | c | w) 22:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Quests do have tooltips currently (I just have to enable JS to use 'em... :[ ). I'm not convinced those tooltips have any real use, but they're there. I agree with Sky on this one. --Eirik Ratcatcher 23:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- (Eirik, pcj designed the current js for the tooltips. :P. He's proposing that we add more. --Sky (t | c | w) 23:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC))
- Not proposing, merely asking. I don't really care to add all that info, just wondering if anyone expected to see the quest tooltips to be implemented in a similar manner as the items. --Pcj (T•C) 23:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't have much use for the quest tooltips we have currently. I don't expect I'd have much more use for expanded ones. Would it add much to page processing time?--Eirik Ratcatcher 19:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- Not proposing, merely asking. I don't really care to add all that info, just wondering if anyone expected to see the quest tooltips to be implemented in a similar manner as the items. --Pcj (T•C) 23:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- (Eirik, pcj designed the current js for the tooltips. :P. He's proposing that we add more. --Sky (t | c | w) 23:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC))
Category/Template idea
Heres a thought...
Why don't we make templates to match the categories and use them rather than the categories. That way, if a change is desired instead of having to create a bot, all you would have to do is change a line on the template, thus changing the category for every page it was on.
- Using:
<noinclude>[[Category:Article Type Templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>
<includeonly>[[Category:<category name>|{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}]]</includeonly>
See User:Coobra/sandbox2 for template exampleSee User:Coobra/sandbox3 for template usage example
The page would not receive unnecessary text anywhere on the page, and only the category would be added. {T•C) 18:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is what Zeal has tried to do; though I find it disturbing that two would come up with the same idea. To say just a little on my thoughts, it is to disagree entirely with the thought of creating a template specifically for categorizing items/whatnot. That they are two different namespaces should make some indication that they shouldn't be mixed; furthermore, "just changing the template" is usually harder than you think, and could result in errors with the template usage made by people in general. In others' words, working as intended. :P --Sky (t | c | w) 23:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Aye, Sky brought up that and another problem before in relation to my templates. I understand his reasonings, but i still feel the benefits are worth the negatives.
- The other problem was sort keys. The templates i made to quickly get the job done only allowed for one custom sort key for all categories. It's just not feasible to provide custom sort keys for any category and know what category you want applied to with templates, too much customisation to handle. I still thought they were worth the benefits though. If/When string functions are installed, things like that would become easier to handle with more automation rather than customisation, but still wouldn't be perfect. --
Oh...you found it disturbing that two came up with a similar idea, huh........I just had something witty I was going to say, but I lost my train of thought... *walks away mumbling to self* {T•C) 06:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Quest Stacking
Something I've learned over my years playing WoW, is that knowing how to stack your quests can greatly speed up your leveling time. There are things you can do that will help keep you from revisiting the same area several times, and can help mitigate world travel needs.
A great example is the quest Pearl Diving. Although the [[Badlands#Quests|] page mentions you should acquire the Blue Pearl before entering the zone, there is no mention of it in [[Stranglethorn Vale#Quests|]] where it would be very useful.
I'd like to start the process of adding that information, after hearing what everyone has to say on the subject. Perhaps this is what was intended by the "Zone questing guide" links on pages such as [[Badlands#Quests|]]? I was thinking of new pages linked from the Zone#Quests pages, or putting a section on the Zone#Quests pages that lists quests in an execution-order, along with some explanations on why you are doing things in this way where appropriate (To answer the questions similar to "Why the heck do I need Blue Pearl x9?").
There will probably be differences in how the stacking should occur between Alliance and Horde, and rather than creating a single long Zone#Quests page, it might be good to go with the idea of a separate page for each faction.
So, I'd like some feedback on this project idea. Thanks!
-- Loopinvariant 20:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so I found some info on Powerlevel_Northshire_Valley although it seems be indirectly linked. It is a bit confusing that there is a Questing_in_Northshire but it doesn't link to Powerlevel_Northshire_Valley. The style is also inconsistent with Stranglethorn_Vale_quests. I suppose that's because this is a Wiki :-).
Is there an overall style/philosphy/design for quest information? I'm reading the policies now.
-- Loopinvariant 20:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't even know Questing in Northshire existed >_<. I, along with a few others, have been working to add just the type of information you are talking about. Two pages should eventually be created for each zone: a "quest list" (ex: Teldrassil quests) which is just a table with quests, quest givers, and their locations listed; and a "questing guide" (ex: Teldrassil questing guide) which will talk about the most efficient way to complete quests in that zone, and which will contain the type of information you are talking about. Some formatting discussion for the quest list is currently going on at WoWWiki talk:Quest list project, but as of yet there is no standard for the questing guides (though I think the Teldrassil format has been used for several other zones - Thousand Needles questing guide, Dun Morogh questing guide, Azuremyst Isle questing guide, and one for Eversong Woods is on the way). I hope this answers your questions to some extent at least :) --Jiyambi t || c 22:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... I remember seeing that page, though I had obviously forgotten about it. Category:Walkthroughs holds a few more similar to it. --Sky (t | c | w) 05:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
BlizzCast Q&A Questions Needed!
A message from your heathen overlords:
We are once again looking for fan-submitted questions to answer in future episodes of BlizzCast. It can be anything related to Blizzard, the company, our games, or the talented people that work here. We do have a Q&A session in the soon-to-be-released episode 2 where we cover a bit of Starcraft lore and several World of Warcraft game play questions. Keep an eye on the BlizzCast home page (http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcast/) for when it is released to get all the details. So if you have a question you want to get to us, please send an email with the subject line "BlizzCast Q&A" to the email address BlizzCast@Blizzard.com and you can include a name/character along with a location/realm if you'd like for us to refer to you during the show if your question is picked. While we won't be able to get to every one of them, we want to keep you updated on ours games or the company, whatever aspects are most important to you.Thanks for your help and be sure to tune into future BlizzCasts (http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcast/) to see if your question was answered!
Actually, it's from Blizzard, but do send along stuff anyway 
Kirkburn talk contr 00:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Theories With No Proof
Should we really let people add theories about things without any proof? I mean it doesn't hurt the page, it just look weird when a proof-less theory is listed. Personally, it reminds of like Elvis or Bigfoot sightings.
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 20:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- What pages are you referring to? If it is baseless speculation, it should go or get a base.--SWM2448 21:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Pained's article has one, the Cenarion Expedition's page has one where it says there's no proof but a theory of the naga draining the lke is to help Illidan make a new Well of Eternity.
Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 03:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Boss tables
I use to go to the instance pages to search for specific boss information. I used the tables that used to be there to navigate to the correct page. Why were these tables removed? -- Scyth02 06:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- THey weren't removed. Click the [show] link in the infobox next to the word "Bosses". --Sky (t | c | w) 06:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Films and podcasts
Since the category Movies is about ingame videos mainly, how about adding a category "film" that includes the Warcraft Movie and "Second Skin", the mmo ducumentary. And how do we define "videos" and "movies"? what would machinima/bosskill/etc be considered.
And would "podcasts" be considered a type of media as well ?
-- SaudiGamer 08:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Curious about instance/raids
"Ragnaros, along with General Drakkisath, is the only end-boss of a pre-Burning Crusade raid instance that does not drop a quest-starting item as a reward for killing him." is a quote from the MC instance page. While searching for instance info both on Blizz's website and wowwiki, it appears that almost all baby instances have an option to bring 10 people into said instance. Now I've never brought 10 people into VC or SFK, etc, but it's possible which technically makes it a raid instance? Which negates that above quote as a handful of the end bosses in those intances do not drop quest-starting items (i.e. Aku'mai as well as all SM end-bosses).
Just wanted to check before pulling that comment off. Or perhaps clarify it a bit? -- Innocentlysassy 22:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- They used to be raidiable, but I know places like Scholo and Strath were capped at 5, I'm assuming all others below it were as well? --Piu (?!) 23:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the fact that you can bring 10 people in if you really want to does not make those raid instances. All quests for those instances are for 5 man groups only, and the instance difficulty is tooled for 5-mans. Therefor, I would say they are NOT raid instances and leave the article as is. --Jiyambi t || c 00:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think they're still raidable, Piu, and only 4 instances were capped at 5. O_O I understand the definition you guys are going by, as most quests can't be completed in raids for most instances. And a lot of quests will tell you if that instance is a raid one. I just always thought of it in my mind as "oh I can look at a raid tab as there's more than 5 people in this instance" for a raid. But like I said... je comprends. ;) -- Innocentlysassy 06:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Gonna agree with Sky here (which is why I asked in the first place). I know the chances of someone reading this is over, but just in case. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/worlddungeons.html Notice that it still says 10 for almost every instance. And as such http://wowwiki.com/Instance (notice the players advised/max). Okay, satisfied now. =D --InnocentlySassy t | c 08:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The Terokkar Mana Bomb
A large number of the quests involved in this chain are duplicated horde-and-alliance. The person the character reports to changes due to faction. But aside from the name of that person (where it appears in the quest text), the name of the stronghold/point the character reports to, and the quest ID, the quests are identical.
When I first wrote those quests up, I included both the Alliance and Horde versions on a single page. I felt, and still feel, that no good purpose is served by splitting them up based on the trivial differences between them.
Recently, these pages have been getting split up, with the original page being used as a disambig page. The components of The Terokkar Mana Bomb quest chain are my chief example. I do not see value to the splitting up of these pages. Most comments about the quest would be equally relevant for the other branch.
I was pointed to The Binding as an example in favor of splitting. I find that uncompelling as an example, as neither the quest text, nor yet the chains in which they appear, match one another. (And that when comparing like-with-like, mind, across either city or pet similarities.) Similarly, I can point to Gnome Engineering, with which I did some work myself. There is enough difference between the branches that I did not feel compelled to put them all on one page.
My contention is not that all quests with the same name should be on the same page, nor even that if they have the same rewards or purpose, they necessarily belong together. I am simply saying that, where the quests are so close together, there is no need to describe them on separate pages; that indeed, doing so causes problems that can be avoided by combining them.
--Eirik Ratcatcher 20:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- another example of (IMO) senseless disambiguation: Quest:Stolen Winter Veil Treats. --Eirik Ratcatcher 20:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I kinda support you here. Wowwiki is different than a data base site in that it's human-added content rather than auto-collected. We have lots of pages that are bot generated, but the strength of a site like this is that a reasonable editor can make decisions about when to group things up like this when it makes sense to do so. --Piu (?!) 20:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Loot Category Additions?
Finished making the page for Mana-Tombs loot and wanted to add it to the items for Mana-Tombs. However, noticed that such a category does not exist? Unless I'm looking in the wrong place. However, if such a page did not exist - to make it so - does that mean I have to go to every item's page and add the Category:Instance items link on it? Essentially building the page myself?
Also comments on how the heroic loot is displayed is welcome. As the other BC instances will follow suit when I get to them. -- Innocentlysassy 09:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Category:Mana-Tombs items? --Sky (t | c | w) 10:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Odd that I didn't see that when I searched for it. And it didn't help that the loot for the bosses I was checking wasn't added. I'll go do that now. Thanks for finding it. --Innocentlysassy 22:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- is there going to be a loot page done up for the Caverns of time instances? They seem to be the only BC loot lists missing from the "Instance Loot" page. --ZepherDossier 14:51, 18 March 2008
Image location changes
As a result of the impending upgrade the location of images on the wiki have changed from http://www.wowwiki.com/images/ to http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/ ... if you spot any broken images as a result of this, please either fix them and/or report them below! Kirkburn talk contr 14:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm informed that it should not break, even for old links to the files. However, it would probably be a good idea to search for them and see if they can be dealt with in a better way anyway. Kirkburn talk contr 14:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Crap, guess this means I have to edit my adblock settings. --Pcj (T•C) 16:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- Image namespace pages are showing up with that external link icon (the little arrow). Will that be cleaned up when we're full integrated? --Sky (t | c | w) 06:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Also, "thumb"ed images are leaving a lot more whitespace than before. Can has also fix? --Sky (t | c | w) 07:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. There's a good half inch on my screen on one of the thumbed images I was viewing yesterday. Dar'Khan Drathir, for example. Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember having this much margin space. --Sky (t | c | w) 23:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
On a another note, we're on a new server system, with a rather cool side effect:
- http://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_City?useskin=wowwiki
- http://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_City?useskin=monobook
Nice, eh? If you're confused, it's that we don't need the index.php part anymore Kirkburn talk contr 22:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
2 Items - Same Name but Different
Is there any way of creating a diff page for a 2nd item if both items share the same name? For example Terokk's Mask is both a quest item as well as a quest reward (See Quest:Terokk's Legacy all 3 required items are that way). So anyone hovering over the quest item (when white) will display the reward since there is no page for the turn-in item itself. -- InnocentlySassy t | c 19:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, see WW:DISAMBIG. --Pcj (T•C) 20:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've made the necessary changes to Terokk's Mask. --Pcj (T•C) 20:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, see [Medallion of Karabor] compared to [Medallion of Karabor], and the
|disambigpage=command for {{tooltip}} --k_d3 20:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, see [Medallion of Karabor] compared to [Medallion of Karabor], and the
- Thanks. I'll make the change to the other 2 as well. Hopefully it works. =D (And if anyone is still looking at this, is there a reason the 5 in (1/5) didn't show up for the Shoulders of Assassination on Talon King Ikiss's page?... trying to learn stuff) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Innocentlysassy (talk · contr).
- Awesome. Love finding out things. Thanks for fixing it. *wriggles* Thanks! --InnocentlySassy t | c 23:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- You got a page made for the turn-in item now? --Eirik Ratcatcher 20:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- See [Terokk's Mask] and [Terokk's Mask]. {T•C) 21:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- See [Terokk's Mask] and [Terokk's Mask].
Bad Book template
See Old Hatreds - The Colonization of Kalimdor using wowwiki skin. This uses the {{book}} template. On my Firefox 2.0.0.12, the book text appears dark brown letters on dark gray background and basically unreadable. Is no one else running into this? -- Fandyllic (talk · contr) 2:56 PM PST 27 Feb 2008
- I cleared my cache and it still looks bad. See Image:BadBook.jpg. Any other things I can try to do to fix this? --
Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6:35 PM PST 7 Mar 2008
- I cleared my cache and it still looks bad. See Image:BadBook.jpg. Any other things I can try to do to fix this? --
- Here's what I see. See Image:Goodbook.jpg. It's weird you even have a border around the box...wonder who else is having this problem. {T•C) 02:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Here's what I see. See Image:Goodbook.jpg. It's weird you even have a border around the box...wonder who else is having this problem.
Help regarding bold in watchlists
I have an account on Wikipedia and obviously one here as well. On my Wikipedia User Talk page I asked:
- Q: On WoWWiki when I view my watchlist, new changes are bolded. How do I do that here?
One of the responses I got was:
- A: This sounds like an extension that your other Wiki uses, but Wikipedia does not. I'd suggest contacting an administrator on WoWWiki - they may be able to give you the name of the extension which does this, which you can look up on the MediaWiki site, and (possibly) copy the javascript code into your personal script file.
Can anyone here assist me with this? Here is a link to the whole conversation.--Rockfang 00:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- I believe it's custom .js, rather than an extension. Try the .js linked on your page first; if that doesn't help, I'll go digging through the code to see what it is that does that. This isn't the only wiki that works like that, as the other wiki I work on also has the recent watchlist changes in bold as well. Hmm... --Sky2042 05:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Strange stuff, that... No, I think it's the other way around. I've been on a great number of Wikis -- both on and off Wikia -- and I've seen the aforementioned bolded new changes. I think Wikipedia either isn't running the little thing that all other Wikis are, or maybe is stuck with older software due to the sheer vast amount of stuff there-in. I dunno... Sorry. ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 06:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- To Sky2042: I'm not sure what you mean when you say: "Try the .js linked on your page first;"--Rockfang 10:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind. I had a brain fart. I understand now. I tried it, and it works.--Rockfang 03:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
"Exclusive Content Contract" with WOWDB?
Curse has recently launched WOWDB, a World of Warcraft database. According to Wowinsider:
- Curse has obtained an "exclusive content contract" with WoWWiki for the use of their information.[3]
The article goes on to say:
- Curse entered an agreement with WoWWiki to create a portal to the wiki via their site.
And that Wowwiki confirmed this, although it is left open whether these were the only terms of the agreement. It looks they're already using articles full-length on their pages. Can anyone shed some light on this? --